Episode 88: It's Never One Person's Work with Tabitha Mparmira-Kaguri

Like many of us, mom, friend, PhD candidate, and activist Tabitha Mpamira-Kaguri has become consumed with by the brokenness of the world. Unlike some, she’s experienced it firsthand, and, heroically, is working for redemption—not just for herself but for victims of sexual assault living in America AND those a world away in sub-Saharan Africa. On Episode 88 of the Mama Bear Dares Podcast, Tesi, Leslie, and Tabitha talk about what it looks like to turn heartache and rage into action and healing. They deep dive into the treatment of women worldwide, the dominance of the pervading rape culture, and the ways in which we can turn the tide toward dignity and equality. The conversation is far-reaching, and will ultimately inspire listens to be open to the pain of the world and engage their Mama Bear to work for justice in ways big and small.

Also discussed in this episode:

  • Gender roles within different cultural traditions
  • The origin of a nonprofit (EDJA)
  • Victim shaming
  • Finding hope in the midst of darkness
  • How to move from an immediate band-aid solution to sustainable change
  • How to raise our children in the midst of rape culture
  • Race in America and embracing your individual racial identity

Links

Find Tabitha online here: EDJA Foundation | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram

Listen to Episode 67 of the MBD podcast: Rape Culture (and why we can't not talk about it)

Have you read Ta-Nehisi Coates Between the World and Me yet? Check it out and let Tesi, Leslie, and Tabitha know what you think!



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Episode 87: Quality Time is a Love Language

In the final Mama Bear Dares episode of 2016, co-hosts Leslie and Tesi celebrate the season and talk through holiday preparations and expectations. The women reminisce about the ups and downs of 2016, highlight the memorable moments, and plan ahead with great hope for 2017. They also read listener comments in response to Episode 85's segment#imartyrsohard and find great relief in the fact that so many listeners came forward over the last week as Mama Bear martyrs! Tesi and Leslie wrap up this holiday mini episode with the ever-popular Obsess Sesh and encourage listeners to enjoy themselves and their families over this magical stretch of time. The Mama Bear Dares podcast is seven months in and the hosts couldn't be more grateful for YOU and your support! Happy Holidays!

OBSESS SESH!!

Tesi is currently obsessed with Naketano clothing and jackets and Jeffree Star velour liquid lipstick.

Leslie is currently obsess with The Hamilton Mixtape (of course) and a book called What Falls From the Sky written by an upcoming MBD podcast guest, Esther Emery.

Follow the links and check 'em out!!



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Episode 84: Holding Up the Mirror of Sanity (Youth Sports Edition) with Margot Starbuck

On Episode 84 of the Mama Bear Dares Podcast, Tesi and Leslie converse with Margot Starbuck about a topic back by popular demand: Youth Sports Culture. Margot is the author of the book Overplayed: A Parent's Guide to Sanity in the World of Youth Sports and offers hosts and listeners great insight and information about the current landscape of youth sports in America and encourages us to engage our Mama Bear for the sake of our kids and the American psyche. This episode of full of great statistics and research, helpful anecdotes, and wisdom that applies to parenting athletes and non-athletes alike.

Other topics discussed:

  • The history of youth sports in America
  • Overuse, injuries, and the growing human body
  • How to identify passion, nurture talent, and encourage movement without pressure
  • A Mama Bear Sorority to support one another in mediocre, lazy, and cheap parenting
  • Pros and Cons of organized sports, travel teams, and pursuing excellence on the playing field

LINKS:

Find Margot online:

Website | Free downloadable discussion guide | Invite Margot to speak!

Read about NCAA collegiate athletes making it to professional sports.

Read about high school athletes getting college scholarships.

Mama Bear Dares Episode 56: Youth Sports: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

Mama Bear Dares Episode 38: The Horizontal Tango


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Episode 83: Food As Activism

On Episode 83 of the Mama Bear Dares Podcast, Tesi and Leslie talk about food as activism. It’s a topic that’s relevant every single day, but because there is a lot of focus on feasting and eating this time of year, the hosts dig deep into how Mama Bear can be engaged as she cooks and eats this holiday season. The co-hosts focus on food as a political act of justice and the act of eating for the larger good. Their message isn’t new—social activists worldwide see food as a means for creating social equality—but their lively conversation focuses on the areas specific to Mama Bear and how she might use the table as a place for social change.

LINKS FOR FURTHER INVESTIGATION:

New York Times Opinion Piece

Healthy Hunger Free Kids information

Information on SNAP

A few of Leslie's Radish Magazine articles on the topic of food: HERE and HERE

Tesi's vegan lasagna recipe can be found HERE

Learn more about Bill McKibben and

National Geographic Food Feature on Hunger in America

Read more about food and the environment HERE

Learn about chocolate and child slavery HERE and HERE

Listen to Episode 79: How to be a Compassionate Consumer this Holiday Season


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Episode 81: Chocolate and Chips: Talking to Girls on the Precipice of Puberty

On Episode 80 of the Mama Bear Dares Podcast, Leslie and Tesi gave listeners an intimate conversation about shame and self worth with author, mother, and all-around-wise-woman Aubrey Sampson. Based on listener feedback, it was clear that the themes of this podcast resonated: Shame. Our female bodies. How we can love them better and how we might teach our daughters to be empowered in their skin and have a healthy outlook on the human body they were born in. These themes are crucial and the women behind the podcast quickly decided they deserve a follow-up Mama Bear Mini.

On Episode 81, Tesi and Leslie dive deeper into the cultural relationship to the female body and give listeners suggestions on how to promote healthy body image in their home. The two base their conversation on Tesi’s powerful blog post, “An Open Letter to My Daughter on the Precipice of Puberty,” and discuss body image, the beautiful attributes of femininity, the power of body language, sex, intimacy, and womanhood, all in hopes of shining the light on shame and furthering the conversation.

We had the conversation we often have when we pass magazines of women tucked, airbrushed and whitened. The idea that she will feel pressure to look a certain way or act a certain way is not new to Dailah because, like me, she is constantly watching and feeling. My conversations with Dailah have morphed from the ‘there is no one way to look or to be healthy and confident and beautiful’ to ‘listen to your gut, don’t drown out that voice inside that tells you the world is wrong or that you’re too much of anything.’
— Excerpt from Tesi's blog post, "To My Daughter on the Precipice of Puberty"

LINKS:

Read Tesi's original blog post HERE.

Listen to Episode 22: Stop Interrupting Me HERE.

Listen to Episode 80: Shame is Loud, Truth is Louder with Aubrey Sampson HERE.


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Episode 80: Shame is Loud, Truth is Louder

Like so many of us, writer, speaker, mom, and activist Aubrey Sampson has been consumed with shame from an early age. On Episode 80 of the Mama Bear Dares Podcast, Tesi, Leslie, and Aubrey talk about what it's like to be a woman in America and the forces at play in our culture that make so many of us feel "less than." Why do so many of us live with shame? How can we combat it in our lives and value ourselves for the beautiful beings that we are? The three women discuss Aubrey's book, Overcomer: Breaking Down the Walls of Shame and Rebuilding Your Soul and begin to tackle the hard but essential work of rebuilding our souls and living free from the shackles of feeling like we're not enough.

Other topics discussed:

  • What is shame? What does it mean to feel "not enough"?
  • Sexual assault in America
  • Shames tendency to "shrink" the American woman
  • Self talk ... tips and tricks to treating yourself kindly
  • Activating the Mama Bear to turn pain into purpose
  • Demolishing shame on the behalf of others

Links:

Find Aubrey online at www.aubreysampson.com.

Buy her book, Overcomer: Breaking Down the Walls of Shame and Rebuilding Your Soul

Listen in to the Mama Bear Dares Podcast on Rape Culture HERE.

Tomorrow is #GivingTuesday:

For a full list of our favorites, check out Episode 79. But first, start here:

Empower Tanzania/Water Party gold bangle bracelets

Adventure Project Coal


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Episode 79: How to be a Compassionate Consumer this Holiday Season

On Episode 79 of the Mama Bear Dares podcast, Tesi and Leslie talk about how we can exercise compassionate consumerism this holiday season. The hosts give practical tips on ways to engage the Mama Bear to create ripples of hope and justice in what is typically a very intense season of buying. We believe a good Mama Bear can give their families and their children great gifts and a magical season without exploiting those producing and manufacturing, and all the while remaining true to their values and principles. The waves of our culture are very strong this time of year so the hosts hope to offer a bit of a primer and encourage listeners to lead with love as they exercise their purchasing power this holiday season.

LINKS:

Shop here first:


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Episode 76: Resilient Souls with Cathy Lander-Goldberg

On Episode 76 of the Mama Bear Dares Podcast, Tesi and Leslie talk to Cathy Lander-Goldberg, a mother and photographer who this month will open a new exhibit in St. Louis called the Resilient Souls Project, which encourages the inner strength in every woman through portrait and writing. The three women discuss culture, resiliency, body image, and the power of healing through art. Tesi and Leslie listen as Cathy enthuses about her work, her care for vulnerable women, her love of photography, and about her 25 years of work with children, adolescent females and adult women. Cathy, who is also a licensed social worker, uses photography and writing to promote self-awareness and self-expression, a topic of conversation that listeners will be fascinated by.

Also discussed in the podcast:

  • Creating art in the age of social media
  • Self portrait vs. selfie
  • Writing and photography as a journey to health
  • Resiliency in modern day mothering

LINKS

Find Cathy Lander-Goldberg online: YouTube | Facebook | WEB | Email

Buy Cathy's book, Photo Explorations: A Girl's Guide To Self-Discovery Through Photography, Writing and Drawing, on AMAZON.

We'd love to see your selfie/self portrait! Share it with Cathy and the Mama Bares online (Facebook, Insta, Twitter -- wherever you're at!) and tag #resilientsouls and #mamabeardares! Let's flood the interwebs with pictures of lovely, thoughtful, beautiful women!


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Episode 75: Politics: Don't Let Them Paralyze, Allow Them to Propel

Regardless of the vote that you cast on Election Tuesday (which was two days ago, as of this podcast release), you're likely shaken by the months and months of drama and rhetoric leading up to the day and perhaps deeply surprised by the result. On Episode 75 of the Mama Bear Dares Podcast, co-hosts Tesi and Leslie discuss Tuesday's election honestly and with great vulnerability in hope of sorting through their own feelings, fears, and pain, all the while encouraging listeners to heal and move through this period with grace and love. Ultimately, they believe that Mama Bear is having her moment. She might be angry. She might be baffled. She might be thrilled or surprised by her own feelings. This podcast encourages all of us — no matter who you voted for — to access their Mama Bear for good.

Seven Suggestions for Post-Election Healing

  1. Step away from media
  2. Read a book, listen to music, binge watch Christmas movies, & play family board games
  3. GIVE (channel your energy into being the change for our nation)
  4. Nurture relationships that matter
  5. Take solace in the fact that there is nothing new under the sun
  6. Share a pot of soup with your neighbor and friend (when you're ready)
  7. Activate your Mama Bear

LINKS:

We've addressed several important issues on previous podcasts. You'll find a few, listed by theme, here:

Episode 23 (Immigration) | Episode 67 (Rape Culture) | Episode 73 (Racism)
Episode 48 (Women's issues)

Sexual assault links:

http://www.svfreenyc.org/volun_resources.html

https://www.rainn.org/get-involved

Racial justice links:

SURJ

BLMM

http://greatfutures.org/pages/waystogive.aspx?_ga=1.12737010.43999393.1478702949

http://www.joincampaignzero.org/#vision

http://www.naacp.org/find-local-unit/

Immigration links:

World Relief

https://co.clickandpledge.com/sp/d1/default.aspx?wid=118896

https://www.nilc.org/get-involved/

http://immigrationforum.org/heartsmindslives/

http://www.borderangels.org/our-causes/

Muslim information and advocacy:

https://www.cair.com/cair-chapters.html

LGBTQ information and advocacy:

https://www.mazzonicenter.org/donate-now/volunteer-opportunities

http://srlp.org/get-involved/volunteer/

Climate change:

https://secure.earthjustice.org/site/Donation2?df_id=10960&10960.donation=form1&_ga=1.146521844.1974926048.1478708236

Cowspiracy

https://vault.sierraclub.org/ways-to-give/

Womanhood:

http://www.emilyslist.org/pages/entry/run-for-office

http://actnow.prochoiceamerica.org/signup/volunteer/?source=website#.WCSWOaOZPVp

http://nownyc.org/get-involved/

https://plannedparenthoodrccorpvolunteer.peoplefluent.com/index.html

https://donatenow.networkforgood.org/1438163

https://secure.runningstartonline.org/page/contribute/onetimedonation

https://sheshouldrun.nationbuilder.com/donate


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Episode 74: Faith, Love, and Fidelity with Katherine Willis Pershey

On Episode 74 of the Mama Bear Dares Podcast, Tesi and Leslie talk to Katherine Willis Pershey, a mother, pastor, thinker, and author, about what it's like to feel the temptation of an extra-marital affair and then process that temptation within her relationship to her husband, her children, her church, and the larger world. The three women—each of whom has been married to their respective spouses for approximately 14 years—discuss our culture and how it impacts the way we live out our vows. Tesi and Leslie listen as Katherine opens up about her near-infidelity, about the hard work of marriage and the beauty and challenge of a sacred covenant, and the healing and growing process that resulted in an honest, candid book called Very Married: Field Notes on Love and Fidelity.

Also discussed in the podcast:

  • The ways in which we discuss and write about marriage
  • The stages of love and the ways to nurture a relationship over time
  • Rage and regret
  • Beyonce
  • Marriage inequality in America

LINKS

Find Katherine online: Website | Facebook | Twitter

Katherine's Chicago Tribune article referenced in the podcast can be found HERE.

Buy Katherine's book on AMAZON.

A few helpful links on marriage in America: here | here

Tesi and Leslie take on marriage on Episode 69 of the podcast.

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Episode 73: 10 Things White Moms Can Do To Fight Racism & Spread Love

On Episode 73 of the Mama Bear Dares Podcast, co-hosts Tesi and Leslie discuss privilege, racism, and 10 ways they believe white moms can use their privilege to fight racism and spread love. They trust that the podcast community is a safe place to express their observations, experiences, and beliefs about this topic and humbly ask readers to consider their perspective, poke holes in their theories, and promise to journey together to make a better tomorrow. Lovers of actionable steps and lists, Leslie and Tesi come up with 10 tangible ways to engage their Mama Bear in this fight. The 10 steps are listed below; for complete details and explanation, listen in!

10 Things White Moms Can Do To Fight Racism & Spread Love

  1. Acknowledge your privilege
  2. Learn about implicit bias and examine how it plays out in your life
  3. Listen and learn from those to whom the experience belongs
  4. Amplify the voices of people of color
  5. Talk to your kids, your neighbor, the mail carrier, and your mom about why Black Lives Matter movement matters
  6. Teach your kids that skin color matters
  7. Be a co-conspirator
  8. Advocate for diversity in your life
  9. Pronounce your kids’ friends name’s correctly
  10. Avoid sing racially coded language at home and in conversation

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Episode 67: Rape Culture & Why We Can't Not Talk About It

On today's special episode, Tesi and Leslie explore a topic that they touched on in Episode 30 but believe warrants further discussion because of recent news events. On this episode, the co-hosts discuss rape culture—what it means, how it’s perpetuated, who is at fault, how it plays out in our lives, and the repercussions for us as women and moms. Ultimately, the two hope that by engaging in the conversation in the safe space of the Mama Bear Dares Podcast, they will encourage listeners to engage their Mama Bear and help move the dial forward. Here are the main points discussed:

  • A definition of rape culture
  • A discussion of what rape culture has been and how it continues to be perpetuated
  • The repercussions — on all of us — for living in this culture
  • How moms of boys can help squash rape culture
  • How moms of girls can help squash rape culture

LINKS:

In preparing this episode, the hosts found the following links to be helpful. Please note that this is not a comprehensive list, but a start toward understanding and action:

Brock Turner | Victim Shaming | Black Women and Victimization | Transgender Violence | The link between domestic violence and murder | Rape in Prison | Kelly Oxford on Twitter | What Trump/Cosby allegations have taught us about rape culture

Revisit Episode 30: Gorilla, Rape Culture, and the Role of Parents


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Episode 63: Taking on the Mantle of Motherhood with Julie Lyles Carr

On Episode 63 of the Mama Bear Dares podcast, Leslie and Tesi spend the hour with Julie Lyles Carr, an incredible and inspiring woman who is a writer, photographer, pastor, and the founder/director of a non-profit called Legacy of Hope. Julie drops by the podcast to tell the hosts about her new book, Raising An Original, but the three women end up covering not just the topics inherent to writing and the content of what she's created, but the importance of staying curious, taking care of the Other Self (for Julie, running, reading, bathing, and quiet time does the trick!), and best practices in parenting original kids as the original women and men we were created to be. The conversation stretches in all sorts of ways and Leslie and Tesi spend their time soaking up the wisdom of this delightful woman. Julie is thoughtful and intelligent, loving and charming. If you are for growth, action, and intentional and nuanced parenting, you'll adore today's conversation.

Also discussed on the podcast:

  • The beauty of staying curious
  • Becoming a mouthpiece to solutions in this broken world
  • Honoring your original kid
  • Honoring the original way in which you parent
  • Giving ourselves permission to BE an original so that we can RAISE an original
  • The danger of asking our children to carry our identity
  • Awakening your "noticer" — paying attention to each child's unique personality and human traits, and recognizing this as a process that is forever changing

LINKS:

Buy Julie's book, Raising An Original, HERE.

Learn more about Julie Lyles Carr HERE.

Have you heard of an ambivert?

Check out Legacy of Hope Austin and be inspired!


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